tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post4004344002837548087..comments2023-07-17T05:07:53.982-07:00Comments on clashing hats: Post-SSHRC reflectionsHilairehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09033740943173352249noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-49186541570089365922009-11-17T11:21:30.075-08:002009-11-17T11:21:30.075-08:00Who knows where to download XRumer 5.0 Palladium? ...Who knows where to download XRumer 5.0 Palladium? <br />Help, please. All recommend this program to effectively advertise on the Internet, this is the best program!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-63572633349670750332008-05-06T21:11:00.000-07:002008-05-06T21:11:00.000-07:00DBM/GAA - Yes, interdisciplinary work is HARD to p...DBM/GAA - Yes, interdisciplinary work is HARD to pitch, isn't it? I think this was, in a certain way, the death of me. <BR/><BR/>plam - I don't think I can stomach telling them I'm going to approach/frame a project one way, when I know I'm not going to do it. I'd feel so guilty. I think maybe the best bet is just to reframe it entirely - that's what I'm leaning toward now. It would also be more aligned with "where I'm at."<BR/><BR/><BR/>MW - Condolences to TD! He most certainly is NOT the only one not to get it. i hope he feels better knowing the stats. As you told me last summer when I was fretting about the app, next year, next year!! I'm always hearing that the *third* time's the charm, actually. Good grief. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Epicentre - Yes! I've been contemplating writing a post about this...it's been brewing. The way getting funding ensures fuure funding - and it's this vicious circle that disadvantages so many people!!Hilairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09033740943173352249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-81884089274306632912008-05-05T17:10:00.000-07:002008-05-05T17:10:00.000-07:00What kills me is SSHRC's rejection letter: We hope...What kills me is SSHRC's rejection letter: We hope you find an alternate way to fund your project..." - and: here, we rated you 16.5/30...??? Don't they understand that NOT having funding keeps people from actually being able to enter the privileged realm of PhD studies, let alone tenured academia? It is peer rejection. I am glad no smug academics have come to SSHRC's esteemed defense in comments on my girl Hilaire's lamentations on this subj.epicentrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05186194782161746449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-40520536738774499812008-05-01T19:22:00.000-07:002008-05-01T19:22:00.000-07:00Hey M'dear - I too am sorry you didn't get one and...Hey M'dear - I too am sorry you didn't get one and sorry that you're frustrated about the evaluations. I knwo that you are in a very interesting position with your work (which is extremely awesome, btw!) and I can imagine that it would be even harder to have evaluators not "get" it in many ways.<BR/><BR/>I actually just read your post to TD - he didn't get his SSHRC either and he got 2 even, constructive reports and one horrible, nasty, spiteful one that questioned his general productivity and really made him feel blue for quite a while. He feels better knowing that you're all in this together (I think he felt like the only kid on the block who didn't get one).medieval womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457130525946143002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-61088167416375833562008-05-01T10:37:00.000-07:002008-05-01T10:37:00.000-07:00Sorry to hear about the grant. It's always a hass...Sorry to hear about the grant. It's always a hassle to get the "wrong" reviewers. (Mind you, my NSERC grant did not get any reviewers at all, which was bizarre).<BR/><BR/>But it's a grant, right, and you don't exactly have to do what you said you'd do...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-59476438318931302552008-05-01T10:25:00.000-07:002008-05-01T10:25:00.000-07:00All I have to say is: "Ugh. SSHRC."(This isn't at ...All I have to say is: "Ugh. SSHRC."<BR/><BR/>(This isn't at ALL helpful to you. But, like the people above, I sympathize!)Amanda K Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15035248624305726448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-84610490342224441892008-04-30T18:08:00.000-07:002008-04-30T18:08:00.000-07:00I had a conversation about just this with someone ...I had a conversation about just this with someone who didn't receive a SSHRC postdoc this round. People in our field go 'round and 'round about whether to put ourselves in Huma or SS, and then choosing the subcategory is another nightmare. Almost wherever we place ourselves we get reviewed by someone who is a haiku specialist in relation to our work; there are so few reviewers in our field that it is almost impossible to be assigned one, and we are so interdisciplinary that virtually everyone else is some kind of haiku person. It is incredibly, extremely frustrating to try and shoe-horn one's work into SSHRC's categories and then on top of that have someone from, say, geography, review my work. I'm writing about technology and ethics, and they are wondering where the maps are - not a productive set of circumstances!grumpyABDadjuncthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00996252815514179671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-26588828456834606622008-04-30T17:36:00.000-07:002008-04-30T17:36:00.000-07:00K - Thanks for the sympathy! It's always nice to h...K - Thanks for the sympathy! It's always nice to hear there are others who are also frustrated by the process. <BR/><BR/>Pan - There is a way to specify or recommend external evaluators. This doesn't guarantee that they'll be used, though. One of mine was - she gives herself away inadvertently, though this is supposed to be anonymous - but I really thought she was more of a haiku-chemical engineering hybrid than she is. I will be VERY careful when choosing folks for next year. She wasn't too bad, actually - she liked the project idea a lot, just didn't like my methods. I may keep her on the list if I can rejig the app to address her concerns. The others I suggest will be non-haiku specialists, that's for sure. I was wrong in assuming there were some hybrids out there - I guess we're rarer than I thought! There is also a space to write in keywords. Only one of my keywords was haiku-related. In terms of stating up front, "this is not a haiku project," I would be a little nervous about doing that for fear of appearing negative. But I will be much more explicit in spelling out what is IS - with hopes of implying what it is not!<BR/><BR/>Psychgrad - I've come to see SSHRC as less monolithic, now that I understand more about how it works. That is, you're being evaluated by colleagues, not "SSHRC." That said, those colleagues are subject to the whims of the government that funds them, to some extent - so, subject to budget cuts, to the increased emphasis on grad student training, to demands to make work socially relevant, etc. It's interesting to consider how much those things have an impact on what actually happens in the committees of colleagues that are evaluating the work. <BR/><BR/>As for the question of grad student training, yes, I need to figure out other ways to have grad students involved...I need to get some ideas from other colleagues close to my fields, perhaps. I just can't see it right now. I am, though, thinking I'm going to *reduce* the level of involvement in my next round - because doing so will remove some of the more contentious parts of the research and focus it more.Hilairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09033740943173352249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-79738240019675233572008-04-30T14:38:00.000-07:002008-04-30T14:38:00.000-07:00I'm still mystified by the SSHRC evaluation proces...I'm still mystified by the SSHRC evaluation process. It seems that success in obtaining funding is more about knowing how to play the game than about the quality of your project. <BR/><BR/>As an research assistant, I would be ok with archival/literature reviews. But, as a graduate student, I would want to be more central to a project. Mind you, archival work and literature reviews may encompass more of a project in your area than mine.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02160883537054763513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-28886238515696314302008-04-30T14:19:00.000-07:002008-04-30T14:19:00.000-07:00I'm sorry you didn't get funded, and I completely ...I'm sorry you didn't get funded, and I completely understand your frustrations with being evaluated by the wrong category of people (as someone who also straddles a few different fields and periods). <BR/><BR/>It's unfair that your application wasn't read by chemical engineering and agricultural history specialists. Is there nowhere on the SSHRC application where you can specify your preference next year for evaluators from those fields instead of haiku? Or do chemical engineering and haiku still fall under the same evaluation committees when they divide them into categories? Doesn't the standard grants application have a Keywords section the way the doctoral ones do? If there's no way to specify it on the application forms, then I think that perhaps bluntly stating "this is not a haiku project" in the first paragraph of your application would be a good idea after all.Pantagruellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16276888537167616031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-70665948553590157282008-04-30T13:51:00.000-07:002008-04-30T13:51:00.000-07:00I'm sorry you didn't get it, and sympathize with y...I'm sorry you didn't get it, and sympathize with you about the problem of evaluators not really understanding your approach to your work. It can be frustrating at best when your work is sent out to evaluators who are not quite right for your project. This has happened to me and I feel the same way about introducing the material: "This is not a haiku book!" Sometimes you have to oversimplify the first paragraph or so of the application or the abstract to make sure it gets funneled properly.<BR/><BR/>But keep trying! Your continued work on the project and obvious support from your colleagues will help a lot. Hang in there!Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03157961526409468236noreply@blogger.com