tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post116973855114315931..comments2023-07-17T05:07:53.982-07:00Comments on clashing hats: NegotiatingHilairehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09033740943173352249noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-1169841530921559242007-01-26T11:58:00.000-08:002007-01-26T11:58:00.000-08:00Thanks all, for your comments. I'm pretty pleased ...Thanks all, for your comments. I'm pretty pleased with myself about the call I made, I must say. <BR/><BR/>You put that really well, Pantagruelle - about the way this negotiation plays into my future salary negotiations - I hadn't thought about it quite like that. And, yes, it seems we're both at old boys' club unis that trade on their prestige instead of being accountable and fair to faculty by having salary scales. <BR/><BR/>Hey, WN, I like the way you put that..lowering the bar enough to prevent paralysis, regret. That is my new (silent, to myself) motto!Hilairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09033740943173352249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-1169753729225214932007-01-25T11:35:00.000-08:002007-01-25T11:35:00.000-08:00Sounds like you handled the negotiating incredibly...Sounds like you handled the negotiating incredibly well.<BR/><BR/>And this certainly doesn't have to be forever. It just has to be good enough for right now. (I'm all about lowering the bar enough to prevent paralysis, regret, etc.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-1169751929543106952007-01-25T11:05:00.000-08:002007-01-25T11:05:00.000-08:00If this was your dream job and you weren't feeling...If this was your dream job and you weren't feeling anything I'd be worried, but this isn't your dream job so feeling nothing much isn't anything to worry about. Wonder about maybe, but why waste your time doing that?<BR/><BR/>They lowballed you eh? I hope you get what you asked for, otherwise known as what you deserve!grumpyABDadjuncthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00996252815514179671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-1169750759267157292007-01-25T10:45:00.000-08:002007-01-25T10:45:00.000-08:00Good for you for checking out the salary norms wit...Good for you for checking out the salary norms with the Faculty Association. That was an exceedingly smart move to make! I'm surprised though that your new uni doesn't have a fixed salary scale. My uni doesn't, but I thought we were the only place in the country that doesn't. That kinda sucks, but, hey, if there's no fixed scale, at least it gives you the chance for your pay packet to grow by leaps in bound on the basis of merit, and if you're setting up a new program, then you will most definitely deserve for that to happen over the next few years--which will also allow you to negotiate high at wherever the next school is when you get a job that turns your crank a bit more a few years down the road.Pantagruellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16276888537167616031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-1169745084790899052007-01-25T09:11:00.000-08:002007-01-25T09:11:00.000-08:00Good luck on all the negotiating and such, and GRE...Good luck on all the negotiating and such, and GREAT work checking with the faculty association.Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-1169742941387197242007-01-25T08:35:00.000-08:002007-01-25T08:35:00.000-08:00You're absolutely right that it doesn't have to be...You're absolutely right that it doesn't have to be forever - in 2-3 years if you decide to leave, just think of what an even more *amazing* candidate you'll be, building up a program from scratch. I know it will be a lot of work, but I'm happy that you'll be teaching classes that you will really enjoy.<BR/><BR/>And, damn, I'm so impressed that you found out about the lowballing! Right on! Hopefully I'll be asking you for some advice! :)medieval womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17278854285443306227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28553339.post-1169742866360971162007-01-25T08:34:00.000-08:002007-01-25T08:34:00.000-08:00I'm so sorry, Hilaire, that you didn't feel anythi...I'm so sorry, Hilaire, that you didn't feel anything. But maybe it doesn't mean that much -- after all, you knew they had picked you -- and you're going into this job with your eyes open. (Don't all jobs have the hidden vortex of hell that they don't tell you until you're in it?) I am excited for you -- you'll have real weight and pull to do something new! YAY! And that will be great experience no matter what! And maybe you could think of it as a research project. At some point, you'll be writing about creating this kind of program, which is almost as good as writing about teaching! <BR/><BR/>I'm thinking of you -- especially now when I just want one of those darn schools to make up their minds! Getting an offer wouldn't necessarily make me happy either, I'm sure. Got to remember that. Thanks so much for this post.Earnest Englishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01947000435270263070noreply@blogger.com